Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

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Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby AwesomeAnt » Thu Jul 11, 2013 7:31 pm

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/Air_Ventu ... Cu_In/4708

What's the word on these? $300 A Joe B. is $430 Is it worth it to go cheap or top o da line?


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Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby ShawnHu » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:09 pm

Honestly, for $300, I wouldn't consider the air Venturi part of the choices. I think A2A has a $300 package that is much better and uses the same regs, and customizable o the pressure you want.

As for Joe B, his Jubilee valve can't be used to tether, and I do believe the Guppy can't be filled at paintball shops as it lacks the Foster Fill nipple.
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Re: Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby SHOOTINIT » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:48 pm

scuba tank.. unless you have a way to fill it often
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Re: Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby Motorhead » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:32 pm

A Lot bears into the "BEST" solution :shock:
If gun is a 200 bar/3000# filled gun a regulated filler such as the AV / Ninja is fine ... crank valve open and guns fill's to @ 3K ;)
* Have a gun such as a Disco which is a 2K fill gun ... The AV / Ninja filled devise SUCKS !!!! lacking the fine control of outflow and NOT having a pressure gauge for discharge pressure :oops:

Some have as has ATA used a paintball ASA valve opening devise to get a valve/bleed combo valve. Sadly even then opening the top valve of regulator to get low slow flow is VERY sketchy at best :oops:

BTW ... do have a Ninja 90 and while I fill 2 M-rods without issues, set up while perfectly functional falls short of ideal :x
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Re: Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby AlanMcD » Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:27 am

You can shoot tethered with Joe's valves, it just takes a bit more work - I do it all the time. You just have to open and close the vlave to refill the gun after you shoot the one best mag at a consitent velocity.

In truth, I like this better because you can run the gun for a boatload of shots at its best pressure. If you buy one at 3000 psi fora full fill, that is all you can do (at least untill the tank falls below that point). But you can pick your pressure if you do it manually with Joe's regular valves. If the top of your fill is 3000, the gun probably is shooting best at around 2800 or so, so you just keeep opening and closing the valve at the start and end of each mag to run between 2900 and 2700 or so. Works great.
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Re: Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby AwesomeAnt » Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:27 am

I talked to Joe and he said that ya you[*] can,cr ack the valve and fill to where I want. Can I do that with Dave's? Trying to justify the 130$ more for Joes. 300$ looks real good for a 90ci tank. Thanks for the input.

A friend gave me a 3000psi scuba tank but I still needed the fill adpater, and olny 3000psi. I have plenty of places to fill 4500 around me.

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Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby ShawnHu » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:33 pm

Motorhead wrote:A Lot bears into the "BEST" solution :shock:
If gun is a 200 bar/3000# filled gun a regulated filler such as the AV / Ninja is fine ... crank valve open and guns fill's to @ 3K ;)
* Have a gun such as a Disco which is a 2K fill gun ... The AV / Ninja filled devise SUCKS !!!! lacking the fine control of outflow and NOT having a pressure gauge for discharge pressure :oops:

Some have as has ATA used a paintball ASA valve opening devise to get a valve/bleed combo valve. Sadly even then opening the top valve of regulator to get low slow flow is VERY sketchy at best :oops:

BTW ... do have a Ninja 90 and while I fill 2 M-rods without issues, set up while perfectly functional falls short of ideal :x


You can attach a second gauge at the ASA on most paintball ASA's to look at fill pressure before bleeding. I believe you can also have Ninja make a 2000 psi reg for your 90 CI tank.
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Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby ShawnHu » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:33 pm

AlanMcD wrote:You can shoot tethered with Joe's valves, it just takes a bit more work - I do it all the time. You just have to open and close the vlave to refill the gun after you shoot the one best mag at a consitent velocity.

In truth, I like this better because you can run the gun for a boatload of shots at its best pressure. If you buy one at 3000 psi fora full fill, that is all you can do (at least untill the tank falls below that point). But you can pick your pressure if you do it manually with Joe's regular valves. If the top of your fill is 3000, the gun probably is shooting best at around 2800 or so, so you just keeep opening and closing the valve at the start and end of each mag to run between 2900 and 2700 or so. Works great.


That's not exactly tethered, you're actually shooting a small curve.
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Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby ShawnHu » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:36 pm

AwesomeAnt wrote:I talked to Joe and he said that ya you[*] can,cr ack the valve and fill to where I want. Can I do that with Dave's? Trying to justify the 130$ more for Joes. 300$ looks real good for a 90ci tank. Thanks for the input.

A friend gave me a 3000psi scuba tank but I still needed the fill adpater, and olny 3000psi. I have plenty of places to fill 4500 around me.

Anthony


There's no need to slowly fill with the regulated tank, turn it on and it'll fill to your reg's pressure. Theres also no danger if you decide to forget to close the needle valve. Hard part is deciding what pressure reg you want.
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Re: Air Venturi 90ci? Yay or nay?

Postby AwesomeAnt » Mon Jul 15, 2013 3:30 pm

Pulled the Trigger in a Joe B Guppy. :D Wifey gave a reluctant approval. Said the air Venturi isn't gonna cut it. She said yes.
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