Tom Gaylord was talking about it it is the crosman intro into the big-boar mkt called the Rogue, from what i hear it is a 357 call with optional 30 cal and 410 shotgun barrel. Shotgun will put out 1100 psi . this rifle has an electronic setup that give a shooter 10 powerful shots. they also are talking about a 50 cal to come down the road after this one.Man do I wish I was at this yrs shot-show.