WAR NBH - No Bounce Hammer Video

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Re: WAR NBH - No Bounce Hammer Video

Postby oldpro » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:40 pm

I hear you and I pondered it but came to same conclusion in a nitch market it just doesn't pan out. I do have some other stuff that breaches over to other markets that I may patent. But you still have over seas companies that would copy it anyway.
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Re: WAR NBH - No Bounce Hammer Video

Postby BlackICE » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:25 pm

Overseas companies can copy it, but not legal sell in the US. You have to file patents in other countries to protect your IP. But in China and much of Asia it doesn't count.
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Re: WAR NBH - No Bounce Hammer Video

Postby BlackICE » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:32 pm

What do you think your hammer would do for a stock Gen II with my current tune of 3100 PSI fill 16 shots with 0.25 JSB that look like this? Would I get more shots, higher FPS, lowerr ES, lower noise, all of the above? I like the low ES and adequate power.

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Re: WAR NBH - No Bounce Hammer Video

Postby RayK » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:48 am

Very clever design! Nice job! I can't wait to try one.

Ray
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Re: WAR NBH - No Bounce Hammer Video

Postby BRAAP » Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:52 pm

Marmot_Militia wrote:
Shootinit,

Your concerns are valid. However, they have all been addressed and overcome.

1) the brake shoes are held in place by two neodymium magnets. They do not move until the hammer begins to slow down as it strikes the valve stem.
2) see #1
3) Very little chance of this, but it is possible if: you are using a softer valve return spring, AND a very weak hammer spring, AND shoot your gun under 200psi. Shooting at normal pressures, with a factory hammer and valve return spring will ensure there is no tank dump. Since we don't use the bolt in any part of this debouncing technique, a locked bolt is nearly impossible. The magnets ensure the brake shoes return to the "resting" position after the hammer stops moving, eliminating the possibility of them remaining engaged as you attempt to cycle the bolt.
4) See #1
5) We viewed this as the single biggest concern during development. After tens of thousands of shots through both my Gen 1, Gen II and Travis' Gen 1 we have borescoped and bore gauged the inside of the main tube. There is absolutely no wear on the main tube. The hammer brake shoes are softer than the reservoir so they will "wear-in" over time. The exact taper, trim length, and design of the shoes allow for consistent braking force throughout the life of the hammer.

I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question, and allowed me the opportunity to respond.

Regarding the P-rod No Bounce Hammer. As Travis stated, I have 50 in the works. They work on P-rods, 22xx series Crosman, and the Disco (which needs it very badly)

All the best,

Jim

ps: hope to have time to get videos of NBH at higher pressure before I leave for NC.


Sounds excellent, no additional cocking effort to "unlock/disengage/power-through" after the arrest, works at all fill levels and spring rates, ordering mine right away. 8-)

What, if any, lube is preferred? Been thinking of using the DuPont Multiuse Tefon or DuPont Chain Saver for smoother/easier cocking effort?

Thank you in advance,
Paul
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Re: WAR NBH - No Bounce Hammer Video

Postby oldpro » Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:09 pm

The DuPont Teflon is excellent I've been using it for a year now and love it! You won't regret buying one.
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Re: WAR NBH - No Bounce Hammer Video

Postby BRAAP » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:17 am

oldpro wrote:The DuPont Teflon is excellent I've been using it for a year now and love it! You won't regret buying one.


Ordered, thank you. :mrgreen:
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