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progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby airgunexporter » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:58 pm

We're getting there :)

Slightly smaller OD, thicker o rings, bolt installed to attach wire, correct threads and blind hole for the pressure gauge.

First batch will be shipped on Monday, should then have them here in about 14 days...

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Re: progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby Motorhead » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:03 pm

Outstanding ... well done ! :D
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Re: progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby golddredger » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:43 pm

Awesome this is fantastic news. They do look very good! I will be looking forward to the "It shipped" e-mail. Thanks Vincent. ;)
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Re: progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby Kimber45cal » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:58 am

Hi, when you say (new marauder regulator) will this be for the Gen1 guns or the new guns that are just coming out now and this is new mod for them. Thanks Kimber45cal
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Postby Mr. RoC » Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:38 am

Looks great!

Will a vent hole drilled into the air cylinder be required?
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Re: progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby RayK » Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:45 am

I've been following his posts, so I can answer the questions:

It does not require a hole to be drilled. It uses the gauge port to vent the regulator - which replaces your stock gauge block. The gauge will still work, but it measures the regulated pressure not the air tube pressure. You can use your fill gauge to measure that when you fill.

It will work in both versions of the Marauder rifles Gen 1 and Gen 2. The two versions really are not very different when it comes to their mechanism parts: same valves, same air tube, same barrels, etc.

It seems like a great design. After folks post how well it works, we will all be buying them for our 177 and maybe 22 M-rods, but I doubt for the 25 M-rod because we all want higher power.

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25 M-rod | 40 shots @ 35 FPE -4% | 3100 fill
22 M-rod | 51 shots @ 25 FPE -4% | 3100 fill
17 M-rod | 50 shots @ 19 FPE -4% | 2500 fill
25 P_rod | 16 shots @ 29 FPE -3% | 2100 fill
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Re: progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby intulsa » Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:17 am

hate to even ask this, but being a newb I will. what's the purpose of this thing?

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Re: progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby RayK » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:58 pm

The air pressure in your air tube varies from first fill until the end of your shot string.

A regulator drops that pressure to a consistent, lower pressure so the valve sees a constant pressure for some number of shots until the pressures on the two sides of the regulator are equal, then the shot string "falls off" the regulator and velocity tends to drop.

While your gun is "on regulation" it behaves like you are tethered to a large tank at a constant pressure in the middle of your sweet spot - often around 1800 psi. So you fill to 3000 psi, but your valve "sees" 1800 psi for the first 30 to 80 shots then the pressure drops below 1800 for any shots thereafter.

An internal regulator consumes some of your air tube space, but this design replaces the gauge port, so it is drop in and does not consume much of that precious air tube space.

At least with Marauders, regulators drop the peak pressure so peak velocity will be lower than you can get with an un-regulated gun, but the shot string should be very flat (consistent velocity with very small ES) - until you drop off the regulator.

Without a regulator, we're usually pretty happy with an ES of 25 FPS or less. With a regulator, you see ES of 10 or less over a similar number of shots, but pellet velocity of the regulated gun is usually much lower.

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25 W-rod | 08 shots @ 70 FPE -2% | 3100 fill
25 M-rod | 40 shots @ 35 FPE -4% | 3100 fill
22 M-rod | 51 shots @ 25 FPE -4% | 3100 fill
17 M-rod | 50 shots @ 19 FPE -4% | 2500 fill
25 P_rod | 16 shots @ 29 FPE -3% | 2100 fill
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Re: progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby intulsa » Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:03 pm

makes perfect sense, thank you.

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Re: progress on the new marauder regulator, pic inside.

Postby AlanMcD » Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:02 pm

Pat,

To add to what Ray said, I am adding a link to a post I made on the earlier version of this regulator. I really liked how it performed, but there were some issues with it and Vincent asked for them all to be sent back for replacement - these are the replacements that he is posting about now, and I can't wait for mine to show up in the mail.

The best way for us PCP shooters to think of a regulated gun is that it functions more like a multi-pump pneumatic that refills automatically after each shot - the regulated air space is only about 15 ccs or less, so that is all the air you have to work with on each shot. Since the pressure is lower you have to tune for more air flow to get the higher energy levels easy to do, but still different in how we approach it.

With the regulator, I was only able to get the gun up to 29 FPE with JSB 18.1 grain pellets (which is still pretty good), and more energy will require some modifications that I am prepared to make. In contrast, right now the gun is tuned to work "normally" off approximately a 2000 psi fill, and it has no problem hitting 32 FPE - that is because the full 215cc reservoir is working on the shot now, and it was only the small regulated space before with the regulator. But as you can see from the post linked here, I was able to easily get 39 shots with an ES of less than 10 FPS:

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Vincent - looks great! I can't wait! Is it just an illusion in the picture, or is the regulated air space "spacer" a little longer than the prior regulators ?

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