Which pistol to build??

[caboose212]

Okay- dilemma: I have two projects I'm torn between:

1) .25 pistol based on the 1701P platform. The 14" barrel would be the only outward indicator that it's different. My target tune would be 20 fpe, MAYBE 5 shots? Considering the reservoir size- what do you guys think? More shots? Less?

2) 1701P/1720T hybrid bullpup using Rapid-70's stock kit. Tuned for 12 fpe. uses 1701's barrel, 1720 everything else, TKO shroud internals.

I can't decide, HELP!!! I'm trying to cut back on projects a bit, and want to get one or the other done before summer hits.

[AwesomeAnt]

I like your other Avatar better.

[caboose212]

I like your other Avatar better.

The one from the GTA, or my other Archer avatar that strangely disappeared from the internet?

[FuzzyGrub]

1. I get 16 shots @ 16FPE with my 2201 pistol. That is with a 22 cal 10" barrel and same airtube as 1701. You should get at least 8 shots @ 20 FPE especially with a 14" barrel. Are you shrouding it and what stock do you plan?

2. I like the look of the Rapid-70 Prod bullpup, and would probably make a great backpack gun. Otherwise, it just getting too short for my tastes. A 1720T carbine is plenty short enough for me.

[AwesomeAnt]

Gta

I like the Prod trigger group, not as nice a trigger pull as the Mrod though.

[caboose212]

The .25 "Thumper" as it's being called in other forums, is mainly because I can't afford a Quackenbush .25 pistol, I think it's cool, and a fun, cheap(er) project, and It would easily dispatch a raccoon at close range. No one can deny the sheer WHACK of a .25. Close range being from 15 yards and closer. NOTE: In Md, it's illegal to release a raccoon, as they are a nuisance animal. Being caught releasing a 'coon carries a $700+ fine. I want to dispatch one cleanly, and I feel that a .25 is more up to the task than the .22. I guess, more of a fuzzy feeling about the .25's ability... I don't plan on shrouding the .25, nor using a stock... it's going to be kept a pistol.

The bullpup would basically be a travel gun, and backyard critter gitter, because it'll be quiet, and low enough profile, that snoopy neighbors won't be alarmed... Not the case w/my TERYX-stocked .22. Also, it being .177 and tuned for 12 fpe, it should get a decent shot count, w/a Prod (1720T) length tube.

[caboose212]

1. I get 16 shots @ 16FPE with my 2201 pistol. That is with a 22 cal 10" barrel and same airtube as 1701. You should get at least 8 shots @ 20 FPE especially with a 14" barrel. Are you shrouding it and what stock do you plan?

2. I like the look of the Rapid-70 Prod bullpup, and would probably make a great backpack gun. Otherwise, it just getting too short for my tastes. A 1720T carbine is plenty short enough for me.

"2201" Did you modify your pellet tray for a .22, or does the stock pellet tray fit .22 pellets? I put a .25 pellet on the tray and it was too big! Perhaps you just put a Prod breech on a 1701's tube?

[screwwork]

I think the Prod can be a complete package for you verses two separate air guns.
The Prod can be tuned to shot at 12 FPE easily and a few turns on the hammer spring be up to 20 FPE plus for 8 shots too. Shooting at 12 FPE it would be very quiet and turned up to 20 plus FPE you would be able to rock a coon big time. Your saying it is against the law to release the trapped a coon back to the wild so you could be within a safe distance to kill it easily very effectively with a 22 cal airgun. You can read many other members that shot coons with Prods in the hunting forum to see the effectiveness of the Prod. You don't need the 25 cal to bring down a coon/opossums. Add some bling from WAR a NBH and it will even have a lower report.

My 2 cents, Randy

[FuzzyGrub]

"2201" Did you modify your pellet tray for a .22, or does the stock pellet tray fit .22 pellets? I put a .25 pellet on the tray and it was too big! Perhaps you just put a Prod breech on a 1701's tube?

It is Prod breech, bolt, and cut-down barrel on a 1701 airtube. A 20FPE 22 cal will have more penetrating power than a 20FPE 25 cal, I would think. At close range, you will be dispatching with a head shot. If shooting trapped coons, than single shot ok, otherwise I want a very quick follow-up shot for a very close wounded coon.



From my experience with the pistol, make sure you think out the whole package. Pistol, sights, and holster. Scope is worthless at close range. Red dot is oK but complicates holster. Floating barrel can be issue with a tight holster, etc.

If you are set on 14" barrel, then might as well use a Prod airtube which would be same length. or cut barrel down 2" to fit the 1701 airtube.

I considered making a 25 pistol from a Prod but after some thought, feel the Mrod platform was a better starting position. A Mrod basd pistol could be 30-45FPE. What 25 cal bolt did you find for a 1701/1720T breech?

Anyway, here are some iterations of that pistol:

[screwwork]

that is a nice looking pistol Fuzzy