WE DON'T NEED FANCY STOCKS!!!

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WE DON'T NEED FANCY STOCKS!!!

Postby steveinla » Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:23 pm

We don't need a fancy new stock. WE NEED ACCURACY!!!! The .177 and .22 barrels SUCK!!! OK, some of them shoot well, but many more don't. Why aren't you guys getting Green Mountain to make the barrels for the .177 and .22. Use the .25 barrel blanks so as to give stability with the thicker cross section. I am frustrated and have lost respect for crosman as a result. I personally don't own and will not purchase a .177, or .22 Marauder as long as the accuracy is in question. However, several of my friends want to buy a .22 Marauder. I am forced to tell them to wait, or buy an AirArms gun.

Look at RayK. He has helped many people here on the forum tune their Marauders. Yet he can't get an accurate .22 Marauder. The least you guys could do is send him an accurate .22 Marauder, (do a trade in.) He's certainly earned that much from all of the "customer support" and Marauder promotion he has provided your customers.

R, Steve
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Re: WE DON'T NEED FANCY STOCKS!!!

Postby LDP » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:48 pm

I was thinking about this today and here are my thoughts. Crosman could easily put the GM barrels in the other two calibers with out having to monkey with the cost of the gun by much and we know this because the .25 is not much more than the other two calibers so why dont they? I thought about this question and then realized maybe it is not the cost but it is because they cant due to a contract that was in place before the .25 came out and that is why it has the gm and not the other two. Everyone says crosman makes the other two barrels but maybe they do not and they farmed that out under a contract that is still valid. I could be full of shit but it seems weird that they would not just stick the gm barrel in the other two unless there is a contract or something else similar keeping them from doing it. Crosman would not lose any money using gm barrels they would just up the price to match the .25 and they would have no problem selling them at that price if the accuracy matched the .25. If they cant use the gm for some crazy reason then how about a LW barrel? There are many other airgun companies using LW barrels so we know they can be used also. From GM stand point they will make more money if crosman puts their barrels in the other two so i dont think they would pass that up either. I know chip or some other rep will not comment because they probably cannot give the reasons but it would be nice to have some explanation as to why they continue to ignore the other two calibers potential as if they were read headed step children :mrgreen: I for one will be buying a repeating .22 cal airgun but i want one with proven accuracy and that puts the .22 mrod out for me and that is really the only reason to not buy one. For me any way.
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Postby RayK » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:54 pm

That's good thinking LDP. Did you get something yet? I think you mentioned an AirArms S510 XTRA?

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WE DON'T NEED FANCY STOCKS!!!

Postby BadBob86 » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:56 pm

I agree with your sentiment, problem is, there's NO SUCH THING as an accurate .22 MROD...

I'm thinking the only reason Crosman uses GM at all, is because it happens to be cheaper than producing a .25 of their own. Cheap bastards :lol:
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Postby LDP » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:05 pm

No Ray I have not and to tell you the truth i put it off for a bit longer because my talon ss in .22 is shooting so damn good i can live with a single shot .22 for a bit and make sure the next one i purchase will be exactly what i want in a repeater. I built an ldc for the talon ss because i switched my 12" barrel to 18" and so the sound loc does not fit in the talon ss frame with that barrel and i want it quiet. The 12" worked very good and was quiet with the sound loc but i could not get the 18 gr. pellets to the velocity i was after with out wasting a ton of air to do it so i put in an 18". That 18" slings the jsb 18 gr. at 950 fps and puts them into a single ragged hole at 30 yds using a front bag and no rear support from my window :D If i put it on a real bench and did my part I am confident it will shoot very good at any distance. I am happy with it to say the least so my repeater purchase will be down the road and i will be putting allot of thought into what i want and it gives me a chance to save money towards it so i will not feel like i have a budget to hold to :mrgreen:
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Postby RayK » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:31 pm

Again, good thinking. The Kalibrgun Cricket and the Daystate Huntsman and Air Arms S510 all sound like good investments.

My father-in-law always told me guns are a good investment. I'm not sure that is true, but am willing to believe him. ;)

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Re: WE DON'T NEED FANCY STOCKS!!!

Postby LDP » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:39 pm

Youre father in law sounds like a smart man. I tell my wife the same thing about being a good investment ;) The cricket, huntsman and s510 are the three i am currently looking at but there are a couple more out there that i want to learn more about and who knows what will be out there when i decide it is time to decide on the new airgun.
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Re: WE DON'T NEED FANCY STOCKS!!!

Postby eelect » Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:58 pm

BadBob86 wrote:I agree with your sentiment, problem is, there's NO SUCH THING as an accurate .22 MROD...

I'm thinking the only reason Crosman uses GM at all, is because it happens to be cheaper than producing a .25 of their own. Cheap bastards :lol:

That is so true. You took the words out of my mouth. In America one thing matters and that is big fat profit. If you get quality at the same time you pay dearly. If crosman had to make a clone of any Daystate rifle made here in America using American workers it would be 4 times the price. Sorry guys I just can't hold back. Please don't take it the wrong way

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